Ye Gods, "Hussein" is like "Bob" in the Muslim world. Islam is not the enemy; ignorance and intolerance is the enemy. *sigh*

Yep. I hate ignorant people.

Hate.

The thing about Archie is he *always* learned... unlike most of the close-minded people (liberal and conservative) that I know.

No matter what he espoused at the beginning of an episode, when it was challenged he (however ungracefully) always learned from it and was changed. Remember that fantastic ep where he learned his best friend was Jewish, and he had to give the eulogy? He put on the yarmulke and was a man and a friend. IMHO he was the hero of that show, not the whiny faux liberal Meathead.

I think that Archie Bunker was a brilliantly written character, and Carol O'Connor was a brilliant actor for being able to play so completely against his own personal type and views.

We're actually on the same page here. :)

What I was trying to say was that every racist should have that kind of wake up call, where they are forced by circumstance to recognize the humanity of other people, regardless of race.

My favorite Archie? When he discovered he had given mouth to mouth to a cross dressed man, who became a very close friend afterward. My second favorite? When he had a gold star father and a vietnam draft dodger at his table, went crazy, and his friend was like: "I wish my son had left the country, too. I'm proud to eat with this young man." And my third? When he met the mentally retarded young man and had to realize that this, too, was a feeling human being.

Archie was a wonderful character, and he grew so much. Fantastic show.

I had a strong feeling we agree, and figured that's exactly what you meant... but I always have to do my Pro Archie rant. He was fantastic, and it's a show that I do want to own on DVD at some point.

ARCHIE BUNKER FOR PRESIDENT!!!

don't suppose there's any way to narrow that down to something I could do a successful search on? Because that sounds like an episode I need to track down and watch. :-)

Not sure which ep you're referring to, but the one Born_to_me referenced, and the cross dresser one are as follows:


Ep 150
January 29, 1977 Stretch Cunningham, Goodbye
After receiving word that his friend and coworker Stretch Cunningham has died, Archie reluctantly agrees to speak at his funeral. However, upon arriving at the service, he and Edith are surprised to learn that Stretch was Jewish, yet never said anything, despite Archie's many anti-Semitic remarks.

Ep 113
September 29, 1975 Archie the Hero
Archie arrives home from his part-time cab driving job, proudly announcing that he provided CPR to a female passenger who lost consciousness in his cab. However, he later becomes less willing to speak of his good deed when he and Edith realize that the "woman" was actually a male-to-female transvestite.

Full episode listing is on wikipedia under All In The Family episodes.

It was the cross dresser one. Thanks. Off to mininova. :-)

It's a superb episode. You should check the ep listing at wikipedia, because Beverly was in several.. including one in which she was murdered.

What was pointed out rather, um, pointedly was that if Powell's decision had anything--or, more specifically, everything--to do with being black, he would have endorsed Obama a friggin' year ago.

Exactally. Obama didn't just turn black on Saturday night.

I haven't heard anyone say Powell is endorsing Obama because they're both black men. I haven't heard anyone say Hussein in a while either.

You're not in Texas, either.. and not reading the same forums I am. :)

When Gen. Colin Powel, (USArmy, ret) was asked what color some soldiers were, he replied "Red, the color they all bleed". Strangely, I heard much the same comment from my mother while speaking to Texas State Trooper, about a patient of hers he didn't care about because the skin color was "wrong". What scared me was she was so very quiet and calm about it. She only used "that" voice when she was so mad she could hardly talk. The woman was in labor and had a nasty head injury, the man in the truck that hit them was white and had a broken arm. The woman's husband was dead, she survived and had a little boy, who had to grow up without his father because some farmer had too many drinks before he drove home.

Of course the USMC has a different approach to it, All Marines are green, and if they want you to have another color, they will issue it to you.